have reiterated exactly what paul ryan and mitt romney and other republicans have been shouting. keep up the message as much as you can. i hope you have finally gotten through a tube of thick heads. and, yes, this is obama's fualt, not bush. he should be urging congress people to do whatever they can to reduce spending. we are on the verge of exploding. i believe obama is getting a pass on the responsibility. paul ryan's plan, if it had been pushed through, how would it have affected the financial condition of this country? thank you. guest: thank you. chairman paul ryan, the chairman of the house budget committee, has had budget the last seniors. if they had been implemented fully, what would happen is we would not have a balanced budgets. that's a dream that those of us who wanted 25 years ago, have admitted cannot be done in a short time. what it would have done would be to reduce the increase of our debt and it would have made our debt rise by a smaller margin than the increase in our gross domestic product. that's all we want. we want to stabilize this debt somewhere around

: senator marco rubio might be teaming up with a guy he might be teaming up with, paul ryan, about immigration reform. he'll talk about that and so much more, including some gun reform executive orders the president put forward. and jack hannah will be here with wild animals. we'll try to tame him. >> gretchen: you buried the least. one of the last times jack was here, we almost all died. >> brian: right. but thankfully, i was able to handle the killer snake while jack hannah ran for the hills. >> steve: those were the days. >> gretchen: i hope he have that video. let's get that racked up. now a fox news alert. >> steve: break news out of algeria. news that 20 hostages being held bay terror group have escaped, including a number of americans. how many americans and what do we know? heather has the latest from the news room. >> good morning. we are learning a lot of new information right now. it's breaking. so i'm going to keep looking at my computer. the associated press is now reporting that perhaps as many as 20 hostages have escaped from that gas facility. it's believed that 40

fan of your work in talking about paul ryan's budget, and thank you for speaking out about gun violence. talk to us about what you are doing now. >> what we have realized is that gun violence is a serious problem in our country. and what we have done is see the links of safety for our society, especially in low-income communities, when we heard that over 900 people have died by gun violence in the month since sandy hook, we realize this is a huge problem for our society, and is undermining our constitution. so we said we have to step up. we have got a lot on our plate, but this is one issue we need to speak up about so we're doing it. >> stephanie: absolutely. and sister it is interesting -- i don't know which statistic sounds worse, but i think one of the parents at sandy hook were saying that 85% of the children that were killed in the world are killed here. >> oh, my glory, i hadn't heard that one. oh, my glory. >> stephanie: yes. >> i did get to be at the president's unveiling of this program, and when he spoke of the one child grace whose picture he keeps in his private st

rest of the story laid out very coherently regarding spending. i didn't hear it from paul ryan, and i didn't hear it from the leaders. and that's the part i don't get. the debt ceiling, three months, whatever. the continuing resolution, that's a little bit in the weeds. but all right. fine. you can work with that. but i didn't hear them say what that was going to mean for spending, either. >> that's a great point, larry. they're not articulating spending cuts enough. but when you have someone like paul ryan at this retreat in williamsburg leading the effort behind the scenes for the short-term extension, he's telling members, especially the skeptical back benchers, that when that cr comes up in a couple months, when that sequester fight comes up and defense cuts in a couple months, house republicans will push for the spending cuts but they don't want to lose the pr bat toll a president who's very adept at pointing his finger at republicans and saying they want to cause default. >> okay. i think they're losing the pr battle anyway. >> perhaps they are. >> i mean, i don't know. i know o

much better move than when they arrived but they admit that they've got work to do. paul ryan described it best when they said one of the things we're discussing is the fact that we control the house they control the white house especially following the results of the november election. >> it sounds like they're changing the tone a little bit. >> this was really important for the house republicans because they didn't do this when it came to them coming into power after two years ago when they took back control in 2010. so it helped for john boehner to get his troops in line and to get the conservative groups onboard with the budget proposal and to get that messaging across, very simple line. no budget, no pay, right? it's tweetable. it's something that they can get republicans, tea party republicans all onboard behind that and be united in a way that you haven't seen so far over the last few years. >> it's also one of the messages that will resonate with folks in this country who hear we'll stop paying them? we dislike them anyway? we should cut their pay? >> with all of the talk with r

specifics are in the paul ryan plan? guest: they are. host: jeff is in florida. caller: hi. good morning, america. i look at problems and a simple level. use it the solutions solve more than one problem. when we have 45 million lost jobs, the budget goes up. when we have 3% unemployment, your budget goes down. the american people do not know they could add to their everyday life simple things and each time america works together as a team, they can knock off one day of that $4 billion a day that we're spending. everybody hang a sign -- "turn off hot water heater." "turned on hot water heater" in the morning. that will save every american family $30 a month. guest: that is common sense. i like common sense. part of what we get out of this is to grow our economy. we are americans. putting capital at risk and finding new ways to create goods and services that people wante. i introduced the mid-atlantic jobs act 2012. it opens up coastal virginia energy for energy exploration and harvesting. it would create 18,000 jobs. we're blessed with an abundance of natural resources in our country. we

with president bush, terry edmonds, both at the white house, both working with congressman paul ryan. if he runs in 2016, will rejoin his campaign? >> that is something that the top man decides, the staff man. >> ken is with us from kimble, new york. >> i was wondering if the president would have any proposals to introduce a set of programs to move people from social service programs to the workforce? >> thanks for the call. we know we will hear more details in the state of the union address. let me take his point and broaden it a little bit. will this lay the groundwork for the detail and you will get next month at the state of the union, and to the collar's specific, will we hear specifics? >> you will hear specifics in the state of the unit, tomorrow, you will hear broad outlines of a balanced approach to the budget, economy, taking measures to get more people working and off of public assistance. you will hear broad themes about that, but the details will come later. >> dave is next, from ohio. go ahead, please, republican line. >> i have one comment i want to make. i hope when presi

stoned to go to the polls. no it's an actual substantive policy change. let's not go crazy. paul ryan and the young guns could lead a panel called 40 is the new 18 about how we could lift the voting age from 18 to 40. problem solved. i got lots of great ideas. if you invited me to come, i would be delighted to share them with you. i would love to be there. sa while i'm joking, they are totally serious. rather than change their message and adjust to the changing demographics, the republican party has apparently decided their best bet is to rig the electora

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as one of "time "'s ten west senators. paul ryan said there is no democrat who knows the budge like he does. senator gregg is a national leader on fiscal policy and a well known budget expert. he is currently co-chair of the campaign to fix the debt, a nonpartisan effort to reduce the national debt and put america on a better fiscal and economic path. both senators served on president obama's national commission on fiscal responsibility and reform, otherwise known as simpson-bowles. the commission, originally modeled after legislation introduced by the pair, produced a debt reduction plan now hailed as a model of bipartisan compromise on taxes and spending and is the standard against b which all other proposals are measured. now, ladies and gentlemen, please welcome senators kent conrad and judd gregg. [applause] >> and, first, senator gregg. >> thank you, mark. appreciate that. that was quite an introduction. [laughter] it's great to be here with leading authorities. i've enjoyed the chance to work with them over the last couple years since i left the senate. they've been a wonderf

piece of news from paul ryan, of course, the vice presidental candidate with mitt romney and the head of the house budget committee an says the fight to have, and the hostage not to take is over the debt ceiling. because obviously if you go -- if you default, if you go over the debt ceiling and there is some technicality whether it's really a default or not, but it would certainly tank the economy and hurt our credit rating and raise interest rates. what ryan is suggesting is you just delay, you extend the debt ceiling for a few months and then you have the night oversee questions tracing, because there's already a hundred billion dollars in spending cuts that's baked in the cake that will take effect on march 1st. that's the point at which you say to the president if you're the republicans, look, we can either go with that hundred billion dolla dollar cut or work something else but we're going to cut a lot of money out of the budget. bill: can that idea move forward do you think. >> it makes a lot more sense. the republicans have a lot more leverage there and they don't run the

of 897, teddy roosevelt. of- 1897-even a dive team is on the stand by. some of these people is paul ryan. also a return appearance is the bible used in the field lincoln inauguration and also one used by martin luther king jr.. there will be an event sunday-tuesday. a special viewing will also be provided for troops. >> this just in to the kron 4 news room lamplance armstrong, after denying. on the same day that he was stripped of his bronze medal from this olympic. the interview with oprah winfrey is right now >> did you ever take banned substances to enhance her cycling performance? >> yes or no. was that a p o? >> yes. >> did you ever you blood transfuse transition transfer? >> yes. >> did you ever used testosterone, a cornerstone for human growth hormone to? >> yes on ccortisone... and your opinion was it humanly possible to have a victory without doping seven times in a row. >> not in my opinion. >> this was taped on monday. hahe was stripped of all of its titles. much more coming up with gary look at you guys with your fancy-schmancy u-verse high speed internet. you know, in m

. among the people lining up to see the president paul ryan the republican president who ran for vice president calling it an obligation. >> making a return appearance the bible used by abraham lincoln at his inauguration. president obama used it last time and want to use it again. >> catherine heenan kron 4 news. >> you will be able to watch the inauguration live during the kron 4 morning news on monday. >> it will start at 830 in the morning. and we will also have the inaugural parade live on our 24/7 bay area news channel starting at 1035. >> an official with japan's transport safety board says for you as officials, including two boeing representatives, have arrived at an airport in western japan to inspect a 787 jet that made an emergency landing earlier this week. >> the all nippon airways jet landed wednesday morning at a tala,atsi board after the pilot smelled something burton and received a cockpit warning of battery problems. the four americans, including an investigator each from the federal aviation administration and the national transportation safety board, met with offic

military spending, some spying issues that we care about. you'll see paul ryan making a big show out of not cooperating with democrats but always voting yes as he did for the fiscal cliff deal and as he has in many times previous so it's going to be opportunistic between them, but they haven't sorted it out, this civil war between themselves and so it makes it very difficult for a single figure to rally under the republican mantle. >> ari, to you, to whatever matt is saying and add to whatever you would like to to the conversation here. we saw tea partiers rebel back in 2010 because they did not see the fiscal conservatism that they believe that the republican party should -- should have in its platform. might you see those centrists, those moderate republicans saying, hey, we're going to lead the republican party and start our own, if you will, subgroup because right now the republican party doesn't represent what we want it to be. >> i don't see that kind of splintering, but i would echo things like rubio and potentially even ted cruz bring a different kind of strength to potential co

that would avoid an immediate default by the treasury. republican paul ryan provided no details on the duration of any extension or conditions that might be attached. he spoke as republicans sought to unify for this spring's budget struggles, looking for ways to maximize their leverage in talks with president barack obama over spending cuts. >> president obama is second inauguration is days away, but do not expect the same pageantry that you saw the first time around. only 900,000 people are attending which is have as many who attended in 2009. this year's preparations have been replete with rehearsals, withstand ends, playing the president, vice president, chief justice. the real president will have to swearing ins. a public ceremony on monday, and a private one the day before. he will use to bibles, one that was owned by abraham lincoln, up the other by martin luther king jr.. >> you will be able to watch the ceremony live on the kron4 morning news on monday. it will start at 8:30 a.m. in the morning. will also have of the parade lot on our 24-7 bay area news channel started at 10:35

of you survived. both of you worked with paul ryan, if he runs will you join? guest: that is something the top man decides. caller: i was wondering, is the president going to have any proposals to introduce a set of programs to move people from the social service programs to the workforce? host: thanks for the call. we know we'll hear more detail for state of the union address. let's take his point and broaden it a little bit. will this lay the ground work for what we will get for the state of the union address? guest: i think you will hear more specifics at the state of the union. tomorrow you may hear broad outlines for things like a balanced approach to our budget and to the economy. also taking measures to get more people working and off of public assistance. you will hear broad themes about that but the details will come later. host: do you agree? guest: yeah. host: let's go to the republican line from ohio. caller: yes, sir. i just have a comment i want to make. i hope when president obama takes his oath to office that he takes the oath literally and not hypocritically.

. >> reporter: and of course the president wants voters to think that it is all the republicans fault. paul ryan, the powerful chairman of house budget committee said given the nature of divided governay thinn terms of gridlock, republicans may have to approve the short-term extension in order to have time to come up with a grander deal to deal with the long-term debt and deficit. jon: argument goes on. carl cameron in washington thanks. jenna: a femme-fatale or a woman of fate? a major development in the case of a woman on trial for the murder of her boyfriend. also some new details emerging in the story of manti te'o and his nonexistent girlfriend. when did the football star find out about the hoax and why did he keep the story going? questions we're looking for answers today on "happening now." ♪ if loving you is wrong ♪ i don't wanna be right [ record scratch ] what?! it's not bad for you. it just tastes that way. [ female announcer ] honey nut cheerios cereal -- heart-healthy, whole grain oats. you can't go wrong loving it. jon: right now some crime stories we're keeping an eye on.

conservatives signed on to this. then boom, you had a deal, so to speak. host: what about paul ryan? stories coming out about his being quieter in the background, especially since the election. did he have any say in this or shaping of the policy? >> yes. paul ryan since he's come back to congress from the presidential trail has avoided taking questions and kind of kept his head down. but at this retreat he played a very important role in a couple ways. first of all, he was very active in leading discussions with the republicans when they were trying to decide what their strategy was, and he also came out and talked to reporters and kind of floated this idea of the short-term debt ceiling increase, and he was part of a group of five conservatives who blessed this deal on friday morning. jeb hencer ling of texas and steve of louisiana and jordan of ohio and ryan. so it remains to be seen whether that will be kind of a center of power going forward. host: as far as those five signing on to this deal, what's been talking about the members, especially on the republican side and -- will all of th

presidents interacting with paul ryan at left. every four years, a.b., we're able to watch what is about to be a big lunch. to see look how happy they are and realize it is not true. >> this is really nice. chris van hollen, congressman from maryland, actually my congressman speaking with paul ryan on the budget committee together. van hollen is ranking member. he played him in rehearseals for the debates, for joe biden. they look like they're getting along, talking to incoming treasury secretary and hopefully getting ready to have productive conversations in the weeks to come. but it is, it is an interesting time where everyone has been talking today about the majesty of the day, the respect for the process, even if romney had been here, no matter who is here, always festive and always ma jesstic and always serious. it is a day where we feel a lot of pride. everyone on capitol hill, even when they fight they all feel it is a huge honor to be part of this system and taking part in a day like this. they're all from districts around the country. this is a privilege for them to take p

saw one possibility, which was paul ryan and others within the republican party saying to the caucus, we can't win this fight publicly. let the debt ceiling go because we're going to be blamed for the economic fallout. let's push that down the road kick the can down the road, as they say, and try to get some budget out of the senate and try to get some real spending cuts in the next three months. so paul ryan and others within the caucus are seeing a longer game here than is this freshman senator from texas. >> but if you ask paul ryan what he wants to do on gun control, he would say, i don't want to do anything on gun control. you've talked to moderate republicans -- >> what about registration? >> the only thing they might do is something on registration. >> background checks. >> that's it. no idea that you're banning weapons. no chance. >> registration is the worst. >> put it on tape. 5 0% chance it passes. >> good because hunters need 30 bullets. >> if you've seen a single republican say they support that -- >> a democratic lobbyist last night working on this very issue, he said w

of the key players. let's show it on the screen. representative paul ryan of course the chairman of the house budget committee said this. house republicans may seek a quick, short-term extension of the government's debt limit. now let's go to the other house. let's read, and i'll read for you, what senator john cornyn said. he said, we will raise the debt ceiling. he doesn't say may. he says we will. of course he is in the senate. we're not going to default on our debt. both of these gentlemen are on the right track. i personally think in my emotional state i might not have wanted to increase the debt ceiling but i think politics of course we can't be naive. the president has a very big platform for his strategy. he has the bully pulpit. and i think that some media are calling this a retreat on the debt ceiling. to me the only retreat in the equation is williamsburg, virginia. but i do think that now we can concentrate on what andy brenner and i were talking about yesterday and that is march 1st the sequester. march 27th the continuing resolution because we haven't seen both houses

with this problem in my opinion. jezebel.com brings us paul ryan once again sponsors a bill that would make it possible for rapists sue their victims. once again being an idiot with his moral stuck in all the wrong holes. he has signed on as a cosponsor to the sanctity of human life act again, that zygote can have bank accounts and everything. now it's back which is scary because not only is the above terrifying there is also some creeping [ censor bleep ] hidden in this monster. if a woman went to a stay that didn't ban abortion his rapist could theoretically sue and could win. i wonder if ryan's career would go the way of the dodo bird. one would hope so. [ applause ] >> stephanie: that's insane. it really is. wow! [♪ "world news tonight" theme ♪] >> stephanie: all right. just when i thought i could not dislike governor rick scott anymore. >> oh, this. >> stephanie: this is something road flair mary and i would agree on. dog lovers that we are. >> okay. >> stephanie: the 2010 campaign he got all of this good press for rescuing a laboratory puppy? >> uh-huh. >> stephanie: he

budget committee chairman, paul ryan says it might offer a better chance of getting the democratic-controlled senate and white house involved in talks without a deal by march. drastic spending cuts could kick in and the government could face a possible shutdown. there seems to be kate a little movement on that. we'll see how far it goes. >> when they all get back. >>> a key part of every u.s. president's swearing in is of course the bible that he has placed, that he places his hand on when placing the oath of office. cnn's lisa sylvester had a pretty rare look and was able to actually look and touch the bible. >> touched it yourself. >> i've got to say, this was a pretty cool assignment. >> it's very unique and a really neat part of the inauguration. >> this is something that i learned. the library of congress actually has 1,500 bibles in its collection. and one of those bibles will be used during president obama's second inauguration. the lincoln bible, which is steeped in history. so much history in the small box. >> i was thinking this big bible, but it's actually really tiny. >

that issue in washington. some have taken a shot eight, paul ryan took a shot at it to his political peril, it was used against him when he was running for the white house. these politicians, they don't really have the spine for taking a shot at these very, very controversial so-called third rail issues and yet you can see the american people want them to, bill. bill: yeah, i think the other number that i find striking today, four years ago unemployment in the u.s. was 7.8%. and four years later on this very day it is also 7.8% as we see the first family now leave the white house, and again make the procession up to capitol hill. yet, i'm not quite sure how much that will be addressed in terms of the inaugural speech today. it may be brushed with more, perhaps a thematic theme than specific. megyn: you can't imagine he will talk about the unemployment rate which obviously isn't very good in this country and is expected now to stay at at least 7% through 2014. president obama promised if we passed the stimulus we would be no higher than 8%, of course we went up to 10%, now w

were talking, the picture we're looking at now, paul ryan exiting behind jay-z. mitt romney we're told is at home with his wife, ann, in lahoya, california. someone close to them said they did not believe he would be watching today. but paul ryan must be thinking about what a long, strange trip it's been the last couple of months. andrea mitchell, how was the view different from your location? >> well, as you know, often who is challenging the ban on gay rights prop 8. and i was really -- you know, you've talked about the other issues that were addressed in the speech, the substantive issues about medicare, medicaid, entitlements, climate change, the other policies. i was really struck by his saying that we will not all be free. you know, he mentioned stonew l stonewall. that was the horrible riot in new york city in greenwich village against gay rights. he said our journey will not be complete until our gay brothers and sisters are treated equally under the law. so that, to me, was another unprecedented mention in an inaugural address. brian. >> and let's go inside the rotunda. k

what, if you'll recall, paul ryan in his vice-presidential speech and in other places pointed out that barack obama gave a speech in janesville, wisconsin gm plant and said we're going to keep this open for a hundred years with the auto bailout and they closed it started making those cars in china. i'd like to also point out that china, by the way, the media fact checkers found that to be a lie, too, they sided with obama on that and romney-ryan was correct on that as well. >> steve: sure. >> i'd like to point out that 55% of gm's increased production in china by 55% since the bailout and make seven out of ten cars outside the united states. so it's a good thing we did this 83 billion dollar auto bailout for american jobs. >> steve: sure, but you know, a big part of the president's face are auto union workers, they hear, hey, they're going to ship a bunch of car manufacturing jobs out to china, oh, wait a minute, i don't like that idea. so you've got a fact checking organization that came in and said that's the lie of the year. why would a fact checking organization say something like

as republicans. host: so the specifics are in the paul ryan plan? guest: they are. host: jeff is in florida. caller: hi. good morning, america. i look at problems and a simple level. use it the solutions solve more than one problem. when we have 45 million lost jobs, the budget goes up. when we have 3% unemployment, your budget goes down. the american people do not know they could add to their everyday life simple things and each time america works together as a team, they can knock off one day of that $4 billion a day that we're spending. everybody hang a sign -- "turn off hot water heater." "turned on hot water heater" in the morning. that will save every american family $30 a month. guest: that is common sense. i like common sense. part of what we get out of this is to grow our economy. we are americans. putting capital at risk and finding new ways to create goods and services that people wante. i introduced the mid-atlantic jobs act 2012. it opens up coastal virginia energy for energy exploration and harvesting. it would create 18,000 jobs. we're blessed with an abundance of nat

attend. as well representative paul ryan, who probably envisioned the inauguration much differently months ago when he was part of the republican presidential ticket. it is my obligation, ryan said at a republican retreat. a republican of tennessee, a member of the joined congressional committee on inaugural ceremonies said that it is about the peaceful transition or reaffirmation of power. this is the 57th time the the president of the u.s. has been sworn in, and it has always been done without a mall, without insurrection, without a coup. that is why, whether you voted for mitt romney or barack obama, americans will stop and watch the inauguration and celebrate tradition. even so, republicans will stay awake and will lead democrats revel in their absence. but if you are an elected leader, you have to be there, said a republican strategist. otherwise you would probably want to get out of town, three- day weekend and all. jackson is in louisville, kentucky, independent line. you are on c-span. caller: good morning. i would just like to say that it is very disheartening for me as a f

up. >> talk about unity. in one shot you have jay-z and paul ryan. i don't know under what circumstances you would ever have those men in the same frame. but jay-z with beyonce, of course, and paul ryan the republican nominee for vice president. this is a live picture of the president proceeding through the capitol. he's headed to a lunch, the traditional lunch proceeding under the great dome of the capitol. the 150th anniversary of the completion of the dome is this year. a dome built during the civil war. a symbol of the unity of the nation. the president's proceeding in to that lunch now. there was a moment that occurred on the west front, just after all of this was wrapped up, after the national anthem was sung, and the president had something to say. and we wanted to show that to you. >> the president taking one last look at this view. he wanted to stop and linger and see it, record it so that he would never forget his last opportunity to look down the national mall toward the washington monument and the lincoln memorial, to see the crowd who came to hear him deliver h

the thousands every few minutes. paul ryan just arrived. also at the capitol. we are anticipating the first family arriving soon. as well. there you see paul ryan among the dignitaries to arrive. we are going to be -- events will start to occur very quickly from here on in as we get to see more and more of the power pliers in washington arriving. we are standing by for the presidential arrival at the capitol on this historic day. a whole lot more. former secretary of state powell. he is a republican. a obama supporter and very candid about his concerns for his party's future. we will talk to him. that and more after a final commercial break. final commercial break. the president is coming out of the white house. actually before we go to commercial break, let's take a look. there you see the -- the president's mother-in-law. gloria, they will be making their way here to -- to the capitol. as the -- president's aides get ready to get in the various cars. what part of the white house is this? >> i think we are looking right now at the north door. the president has been attending a coffee

to get this country back on track. >> brian: you are not happy with what they did, led by paul ryan? they're saying, we're going to let you raise the debt ceiling, mr. president, if you agree in three months to come up with a budget? you hate that idea? >> i don't like it because how long does it take to come up with a budget? you can come up with a budget -- they've been doing budgets for the last six years and we don't come up with budgets. they haven't come up with a budget -- i was looking just before in the senate, we haven't come up with a budget in years. how long does it take? >> gretchen: they don't want to. they voted, i think it was something to zero. >> steve: 97. >> gretchen: 97 to 0 on the last attempt. it seems to be this disconnect in society where people want to took spending when you look at the poll, but then that's not really what happens on capitol hill. >> they don't want to -- the public wants it to be tackled, the americans want it to be. everybody wants it to be tackled except congress. >> steve: yeah. >> they better tackle it quickly. >> steve: we tackled the "new y

, the last campaign, congressman paul ryan. i congratulate president obama on his inauguration. and i join the country in this celebration. ♪ the president has the same look in his eye as he did four years ago. remember that moment as he looked out over the capitol, and he took it all in. about to be sworn in as the first african-american president of the united states. >> let's listen. i just want to let you know that the first lady has issued a tweet. here it is. honored and blessed to be joining so many of my fellow americans gathered to watch the inauguration. the president, walking towards the door where he looks out and sees the crowd waiting for a second time. >> has to be a little more relaxed the second time around. >> in their memoirs, the presidents have said so. a very small club, those re-elected. a smaller club, though, those re-elected with less than 50%. >> and the flags waving on the national mall, as we prepare for the introduction of the president of the united states. ♪ >> ladies and gentlemen, the president of the united states, barack h. obama. senate serge

against them. how would you describe that? it's a cult. of course it is. >> well, larry ryan is a pulitzer-prize wing author, his new book is "going clear, scientology, hollywood and the prison of belief." good morning to you, larry. >> good morning. >> pick up with paul haggis left off. he calls scientology a cult. based on your reporting, is that what you would call it? >> i don't use those words, only one opinion that matters about whether it's religion or a cult and that's the irs and they made that decision in 1993 in the nation of 2400 lawsuits from the church and church members. >> concluding it is a religion? >> yes. >> let's talk about what you found in your book. you say you interviewed more than 200 people you looked at thousands of pages of documents. what is the most troublesome practice you say you uncovered through your research? >> the recruitment of children at very young age to join their clergy call a sea orb, they step away from their education, they are impoverished by their service and made to work long hours, as paul said you can on that clip. some of these